Population of Israel 1882

[Margie]

(I am transferring holus my entries and Robis from theolivebranch.myfastforum.org of yesterday)

Tudor Parfitt in his book ‘The Jews in Palestine 1800 – 1882’.

In 1882, for example, there were between 15,000 and 20,000 Jews living in Jerusalem out of a total population of 40,000. In the same year, there lived in Tsfat (Safed) 1,200 Jews, Jaffa (Yaffo) 1,300, Shefa Amr (Shfaram) 100 and Bukayy’a (Peke’in) 100. As is well known, there had been uninterrupted Jewish settlement in Peke’in since the days of the dispersion. In 1881 there were 1,200 Jews living in Hebron, and in 1883, 4,000 in Tiberias. Montefiore recorded 233 Jews living in Acco (Acre) in 1839 and in 1875, 1,500 Jews lived in Haifa out of a total population of 6,000. In Schem (Nablus) in 1839, Bonar and McCheyne found a community of 200 Jews – nothing remains of that community today, of course.
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Robi
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Posted: 17 Jan 2010 06:00 pm Post subject:
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In 1882, for example, there were between 15,000 and 20,000 Jews living in Jerusalem out of a total population of 40,000.


Actually the Old City had a Jewish majority also in the first half of the 20th century. The Muslim Quarter (MQ) was in reality a Mixed Quarter(MQ), a center of Jewish life. Mezuzas (?) of Jewish houses has been destroyed under the Jordanian rule. Nobody mentioned a RoR in this respect.

I find the English-forced(?) division of Jerusalem Old City to the present "quarters" quite inappropriate and bad for the Jew. I wonder why Israel has not changed it in the last 42 years ...

I find it also bad for the Christians whose most sacred road is in the "Muslim Quarter" and could eventually become under Islamic rule in a division of Jerusalem.[/quote]
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Posted: 17 Jan 2010 06:19 pm Post subject:
Robi I don't know who made up this nonsense of East Jerusalem. It was always actually known as the Jewish Quarter since all the land and old houses there belonged to the Jews. When the Jordanians ethnically cleansed them and murdered them they gave away their houses and built new ones on land that belonged to the Jewish families.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2010 02:24 am Post subject:
Margie, I 've been writing only about the Old City of Jerusalem, the heart of the city.

In your answer you speak about "East Jerusalem", a non-existing entity. It is quite another story.

"Jordanian Jerusalem" has been quite small and contained the whole Old City, not only the small "Jewish Quarter".

For "Jordanian East Jerusalem" it can be true what you wrote, but after 1967 the Israeli administration radically widened the northern, eastern and southern limits of the city and this way included a dozen Arabic villages which never before have been part of Jerusalem.

Excluding those fully Arab villages from Jerusalem would make it also today a Jewish city with more than 80 % majority.

Of course, security aspects speak against it, but in reality there is no history of the "unified Jerusalem" containing Beit Hanina, Shuafat, A-Tur, Beit Sahur, Jabal Mukabar, Sur Baher or Kafr Akab.

[Robi]

In 1882, for example, there were between 15,000 and 20,000 Jews living in Jerusalem out of a total population of 40,000.

Actually the Old City had a Jewish majority also in the first half of the 20th century. The Muslim Quarter (MQ) was in reality a Mixed Quarter(MQ), a center of Jewish life. Mezuzas (?) of Jewish houses has been destroyed under the Jordanian rule. Nobody mentioned a RoR in this respect.

I find the English-forced(?) division of Jerusalem Old City to the present "quarters" quite inappropriate and bad for the Jew. I wonder why Israel has not changed it in the last 42 years ...

I find it also bad for the Christians whose most sacred road is in the "Muslim Quarter" and could eventually become under Islamic rule in a division of Jerusalem.

[Robi]

Margie, I 've been writing only about the Old City of Jerusalem, the heart of the city.

Margie, in your answer you speak about "East Jerusalem", a non-existing entity. It is quite another story.

"Jordanian Jerusalem" has been quite small and contained the whole Old City, not only the small "Jewish Quarter".

For "Jordanian East Jerusalem" it can be true what you wrote, but after 1967 the Israeli administration radically widened the northern, eastern and southern limits of the city and this way included a dozen Arabic villages which never before have been part of Jerusalem.

Excluding those fully Arab villages from Jerusalem would make it also today a Jewish city with more than 80 % majority.

Of course, security aspects speak against it, but in reality there is no history of the "unified Jerusalem" containing Beit Hanina, Shuafat, A-Tur, Beit Sahur, Jabal Mukabar, Sur Baher or Kafr Akab.