The Olive Branch

Peter, -European, russian & japanese overfishing GOT TO BE a far bigger problem than seals eating part of the catch, while Orca`s and Great White`s keeping the seal population in check ! Of course, You`re right on the money regarding Foie Gras, Greenpeace & european hypocricy in practically ...

Margie, Peter, Robi and others, European hypocricy, double speak as well as compromizing on it`s principles to further business, should be nothing new to us... -I´ve been 'out of the loop' for some time but I`m getting back in now....after all, wasn`t Lieberman invited to France on official state bu...

Bernie, Bernie.... You are making the common mistake of confusing socialism with social conscience & with communism itself.....but no wonder, that`s a tactic employed by people pushing for an alternative path,....in this process obfuscating & contaminating/diluting marxist 'truths', in order...

Bernie, NEWSFLASH for YOU ; -Social reforms based on a social conscience & responsibility are NOT socialism....neither Roosevelt nor Johnson had any sympathy at all for communist doctrine or practiced socialism ! Anyone who got the slightest insight into the theories of Karl Marx & Mao Ze Do...

Bernie, I definately agree 100% with Peter regarding Lebanon`s territorial sovereignity over south Lebanon, -of course the government in Beirut is totally responsible for anything & everything emanating from, happening on (in) lebanese territory ! If the lebanese government forces are uncapable ...

Bernie, I`ll just name ONE of several examples of what forms of rule has brought justice, human rights e.t.c. to the people..... -The United Kingdom ! Are you familiar with Magna Charta, Habeas corpus and much more....John Locke and the contract between rulers and subjects, I could go on & on &a...

Bernie, Yes, I do teach..... Please, finish your sentence.....-what has...? -If Gaza attacked Lebanon using israeli territory as the launching pad & Israel allowed that to happen, of course Israel SHOULD be held responsible by the lebanese ! Since Olmert got elected Israel has suffered under a d...

Another interesting tidbit in this context ; President Harry Truman was from Missouri, a typical 'show me' personality -someone who wants to see before He believes, very well grounded with high moral convictions and being orientated towards achieving tangible results in whatever fields of pursuit.

Bernie, You say, that the syrians got the kind of influence over lebanese militant groups....making them capable of inciting these groups to fire on Israel at will, but the syrians choose not to...-the REAL reason they choose not to, is that they KNOW that they themselves would be held as responsibl...

-GOOD to hear Danny Zamir himself set the record straight !
Even if I already knew the reality which we all since 110 years plus, are being forced by Israel`s arab dictatorship neighbors & terror organizations to accept living under.....!

Bernie, BEFORE 1948, there were no (arab) refugees besides JEWISH refugees out of the concentration camps...add to that, the fact that jews were the ones called palestinians before 1948 and arabs either were bedouins(nomads) or plain arabs/pan-arabs up until 1960. Syrians had NO buisness & NO ju...

Bernie, -How come you`re talking only about syrian/arab determination & totally leaving ISRAELI determination OUT of your eqation ? Do you think that we`re all wishy-washy dilettantes like Olmert ? AND, how can you say that Syria hasn`t moved militarily offensively against Israel since 1973 ? -I...

IVA, I agree with You on norwegian 'internationalism' often being used as a cover for anti-jewish sentiments in Norway as well as elsewhere in Scandinavia. Neither the vast majority of norwegians nor the vast majority of swedes are admitting to themselves or to anyone else, that anti-semitism ever h...

Margie, Needless to say, but I`ll say it anyway ; Of course, I respect You stating Your mind 100%, You don`t have to refer to having talked to others in order to gain substance here, Your own views self-evidently are most important in of themselves ! (I know, I know.....it never hurts to have backup...

Bernie, -Again, who`s driving your plane ? M.A.D. works ONLY if all parties to a conflict enjoys, is driven by a primary, basic wish for individual self-suvival (and PEACE.....) -with ruler`s in Iran as well as in positions of leafdership of Hamas (plus other M.E. terror-organizations) cherishing in...

Bernie,
-Who`s driving your plane ???
-HaGolan is NOT on the table, Israel is NOT a satellite-state/colony/'protectorate' of the Obama administration....She makes Her own security-related, and other -decisions of strategic importance to our Eretz Israel !

Bernie, -Are you for real ??? What misconceptions are you revelling in here & now ? Force, pride, might makes right('Hama rules*), are VERY important factors in the arab concept of the world, as we`ve learned from our history in the Middle East.... :( -Shimon forgot to mention REVENGE as another...

I say, Israel`s new democratically elected government must not - cannot back down in the face of european, arab & Obama`s attempt at blackmailing our jewish nation into submission, to go back down on Her knees.....-what say YOU ??? -Israel sticking with the 2003 roadmap for peace, is the ONLY wa...

Bernie,
Do you understand the concept of government subsidized price-level of food exports ?
What an israeli family spends per month would, under such a program, not be relevant to presumtive lebanese consumers.

Oren, We`re talking about what price Lebanese consumers would have to pay for israeli produce, exports subsidized DOWN to the syrian price-level by the israeli government...why wouldn`t that be feasible ? To give the lebanese a chance to get off depending on Syria for food, and getting a reliable &a...

Oren,
Have You ever heard of governments subsidizing exports to certain specific countries in order to keep the price paid for the produce by the recieving country down/low, -what better raison-d`etre could there be than supporting a permanent israeli-lebanese peace-treaty ?

I agree with Peter and Shimon :wink: . Furthermore, I blame Tzipi Livni primarily for Shas new influence, being in the coaltion...-I also now blame her for breech of diplomatic protocol, isn`t she supposed to be so on record with the diplomatic 'in-crowd', -on top of that Livni comitted a gargantuan...

-What Israel REALLY needs from now on, is a straight-shooter as foreign minister...Lieberman fits good into that role ! (By 'straight-shooter', I mean someone who speaks their mind straight-forwardly and stands by His word.) Two-faced 'diplo-speak', Israel has had enough of that already......that ou...

Bernie, -What did Syria fight (launching very frequent fedayeen terror attacks targeting jewish civilian villages/kibbutzim) against my people for, in the mandate area BEFORE 1948 and in Israel BEFORE 1967...if they are only fighting for HaGolan ? Syria can not by any means have HaGolan, Israel has ...

Bernie,
Why do the hezbullies need so much arms, isn`t this a good reason why Israel shouldn`t let Hezbollah pick the time or place for the next confrontation between Zahal & Hezbollah ?!

Shimon,
-Appearently not much, I just sometimes find Bernie`s attitude a bit hard to take & try to make him explain where he`s coming from...philosophically, -but perhaps that`s asking too much ?!

Bernie, I think YOU underestimate the russian, french & british military intelligence services(and Mossad).....-I don`t give a damn about what Assad says ! The difference between educated and uneducated people all ower the world, is that educated people have got a choice weather to allow themsel...

I`trying my best to put a positive spin on this balagan.....-no Amir Peretz on the roster.... :) ! -What do You folks think of Ya`acov Ne`eman as/for minister of justice and Gideon Sa`ar for minister of education ? Isn`t Limor Livnat a pretty competent and experienced person, -She could have been gi...

Bernie, I know about Franjieh, but not about this Michel Sleiman...who, what is he ? -Isn`t Michel Aoun allied with the syrians, thus comitting treason against Lebanon ? In a democracy, an honest negotiation process is built on two parties talking to each other, subsequently compromizing on their ma...

Bernie, YOU are dead wrong again....Rifaat al Assad bragged about having killed 'at least' 38.000 civilians in Hama, while foreign diplomatic corps sources in Damascus reiterated that the ACCURATE number came to a little over 25.000 murdered civilians in Hama 1983. Diplomatic sources equals foreign(...

Bernie, I believe, that the incoming israeli government would be willing to with an open-mind listen to...and conduct unconditional negotations for peace or whatever with, someone like Saad Hariri if an opportunity presented itself. The saudi 'peace-initiative' on the other hand, is a cruel farce an...

Bernie, You can think whatever you want about defense minister Sharon, his and Israel`s SOLE objective in 1982 was to throw the PLO murdering machine out of Lebanon, neither Arik Sharon nor any other israeli leader had any interest whatsoever in meddling in lebanese internal politics. -Furthermore i...

Bernie, Respect isn`t something that comes automatically, it has to be earned....and can be lost too........ Perhaps many of us jews lost our respect for, and our will to stay associated with the 'pro-israeli' groups in Lebanon, christian & others....when they betrayed their alliance with Israel...

amas & Hezbollah are terrorist organizations, therefore the conditions on them, Syria & Iran are ruled by people who are working for our ational annihilation, therefore the conditions on them, add to that the fact that Syria owes Israel BIG-time war reparations for what they did to us BEFOR...

Bernie, Hamas & Hezbollah are terrorist organizations, therefore the conditions on them, Syria & Iran are ruled by people who are working for our national annihilation, therefore the conditions on them, add to that the fact that Syria owes Israel BIG-time war reparations for what they did to...

Bernie, Israel is NOT holding any guns to anyones head, ALL we jews`re asking for....is UNCONDITIONAL, honest and sincere peace negotiations with partners not striving for our national annihilation, is that SO hard to comprehend ? We might EVEN be prepared to negotiate with Hamas & Hezbollah, bu...

To *guest' ; -Israel will not negotiate with a gun to Her hread ! to Sdemetri , What landtheft are you referring to ? The ATTEMPTED arab landtheft in 1948-49 when the pan-arab dictators tried to take from us what was given to us by the U.N. general assembly by majority vote in 1947 ? Or the attempte...

Bernie & Sdemetri, The core of the arab - jewish conflict is ; you arabs have consistently refused to acknowledge that we jews enjoy any right at all in the M.E.(territorial or otherwise) save to live as a minority at the mercy & whims of the arab dictatorship ruler, in a country that`s been...

According to you, this type of peace "is not worth the bother" Yes, that peace was strategic, so useful for Israel. But if things don't change, it will die with Moubarak, or sooner. You can't make peace with Egypt, but not with the Egyptians, and expect it to mean anything ... .Olmert`s s...

Isn't it obvious that if you involve your own population in war by firing from within towns, near houses, schools and other public buildings any defensive reaction will strike members of your population Yes, but that is not the issue here. Most of the civilians that were killed, were not killed as ...