The Olive Branch

If I had been a Palestinian in a camp I wouldn't have been me. Human beings are a product of a mixture of influences between their genetic inheritance and their environment. I would have been subject to the pressures of being Palestinian, gone through the school system where Israeli territory legiti...

How would I be if I had grown up in a camp, you ask Davebt. We have discussed this several times in this forum. What would we be like had we been in the Palestinians' place? I believe that we would never have got there. We would have grabbed the other half of the partition, knowing it wasn't what we...

Davebt thank you for the lesson in morals. We cannot and must not continue with ruling over another population - it is fundementally wrong. The time is up and if you cannot see the way the wind is blowing I cannot help you. The time was always up. The situation should never have happened. The reason...

Haven't been to Italy for years - it would be a blast.

Here is the view of a respected commentator: To say that Israel, or Israelis, don't care about "peace" is so off-base that it borders on calumny. But to say that Israelis don't care about an inherently flawed "peace process" that has resulted in the deaths of thousands of people ...

There was a television programme showing the new Arab Hevron. They have a very forward looking mayor who speaks good English and very serviceable Hebrew. He welcomed the Israeli television crew and took them round his city. The offices are up to date and seem very efficient. He took the crew around ...

Dan I see that your understanding of the realities of the ME does not include the fragmented nature of the PA and the strength of the hold that Hamas has established over its client people. I don't know on what basis you assume that they will collapse if there is peace,but if it comforts you, go rig...

This also answers Margie's statement. No need for penalty clauses. If people are tired of war and truely want peace, and if the plan is designed so that both sides believe that the plan will lead to peace, it will be carried out. If people do not want peace, no amount of penalty clauses will help. ...

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=187284 'Abbas threatens to leave talks if pressured on key issues' By JPOST.COM STAFF 09/06/2010 17:26 PA chairman tells 'Al Quds' newspaper that he "will not be pressured into signing anything," slams slogans thrown at him such as "eno...

hehe who me?
I am the most tactful of beings.

sometimes a blind fowl picks up a kernel - when it makes a proper meal of it, they'll start understanding

HNY prosperous, healthy and happy

Did you notice where it was posted? That was rather the point

\ Foreign Policy, January 22, 2005 Lebanonwire A World Without Israel By Josef Joffe Imagine that Israel never existed. Would the economic malaise and political repression that drive angry young men to become suicide bombers vanish? Would the Palestinians have an independent state? Would the United ...

aw and here I was thinking that they were in it to represent the Jordanian option and the Egyptian option

and this is how Hamas intends to continue to behave. As one of the people targeted by them, (not a 'settler' in the Western meaning of the word, but as a resident of Tel Aviv probably one in the eyes of Hamas) I believe them when they say that they consider peace processes a game and that they wish ...

The Ground Zero mosque - what US could learn from Israel By DANIEL GORDIS 09/03/2010 16:53 http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=186793 Life in our region has taught us that the first necessary step to defending yourself is acknowledging that someone is out to destroy you. In its basic form, th...

About the Hamas desire for peace-making: from their Charter - which is precisely what he said in the sermon. *”Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences “[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve ...

They certainly don't seem happy at the prospect of peace before them. Thousands mark last Friday at Aqsa as Israel tightens security Muslims hold mass prayers at Jerusalem mosque Third holiest site in Islam http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/09/03/118397.html Tens of thousands of Muslims poured ...

Dan says It is in that context that we have to understand the term "peace" as used by Palestinians. This does not mean necessarily that they do not wish for peace. It is quite possible that the majority of Palestinians would settle for living peacefully side by side with Israel and even co...

I'm sorry it's a day late but it's always a good thing to extend celebrations.

Lots of love and good wishes for many more happy healthy birthdays

Delusions of "peace:" Breaking the conspiracy of silence 01.09. 2010 http://www.zionism-israel.com/log/archives/00000755.html It hurts me to admit this. As a Zionist, I really wish that the much hoped-for peace was really just around the corner. I wish that Israel could give up a few squa...

http://www.justjournalism.com/media-analysis/view/guardian-focuses-on-settlers-following-terrorist-attack Guardian focuses on settlers following terrorist attack 1 September 2010 On the eve of the commencement of peace talks between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority, members of Ha...

Saeb Erekat These are custom-made PR adverts aimed at the Israeli public but the commentary on this one by the ElderofZiyon tells the truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3c4sV7pywQ&feature=player_embedded What a nuisance that we can't embed videos into this format - should we change to another...

If the new system in the PA is sincere in seeking the perpetrators, no matter their connections and manages to respond to the benefit of the region, rather than in the old fashion, according to tribal affiliations or personal grudges then we're well on the way to an adjustment, if not this time, the...

Back to the thread: I see that the PA is arresting people in droves as a result of the killing. I hope it's not just score-settling.

Kibbutznik had a brief stay here as well and nobody missed the faker when s/he left. Israelis have many points of view but what unites most of us is that we want the best for our country, although we don't always agree on what that is. davebt you're stronger-stomached than I am if you are prepared t...

Most of Israel would be flagellating itself if such a thing had been done by one of ours. Hamas, however, merely says that this is one of a series, more to come. Abbas had the grace to condemn it but there are no loud voices from the Palestinian people to echo him and naturally none from Gaza. Simil...

TUESDAY, AUGUST 31, 2010 Terror Attack near Hebron Posted by JoeSettler at 8/31/2010 08:32:00 PM LATEST REPORTS AT BOTTOM 4 people were just killed in a car by Palestinian terrorists. 1 of the dead includes a pregnant woman. 2 men, 2 women, ages 25 and 40. They were residents of Beit Hagai. The terr...

Presumably they will all be equal citizens in their own country - men equal to men, women equal to women, but in other Arab countries they have never been equal, never had citizenship and were never accepted. The only country in the ME in which Palestinians were ever equal citizens is Israel.

who could afford you?
hope you'll be back in Israel sometime

What's next Lynn?
After the baby, post-doc?

As accurate a statemen as the one that God either gave women beauty or brains, but never both.

probably yours.

I nearly headed this entry ''for peter''

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=186157 JPost.comIsrael Photo by: Courtesy Edelstein: Palestinians should halt building as well By GIL HOFFMAN 08/27/2010 03:39 Public diplomacy minister to tell PM West Bank freeze should be mutual. If the Palestinians demand the continuation of the constr...

http://pajamasmedia.com/michaeltotten/2 ... e-horizon/

It's long to cut and paste but the article itself is lively, with pictures. Read it.

It's elderofziyon.blogspot.com as I wrote jacob

By the way, Hezbollah kills bill collectors Ya Libnan covers Hassan Nasrallah's latest speech last night. The speech itself was long, as usual, and covered a lot of topics where Nasrallah describes his vision for Lebanon. He said that Lebanon should accept arms from Iran to equip the army, that Leba...

congrats Lynn. Proud of you